Monday, September 23, 2013

More couples apply flat before marriage

More people are actually applying for flats before getting married. Not surprising though - you can read the article here

Just had a conversation with Cheryl and I was just sharing about the 'ideals' of proposing first before everything else - like applying for flat. I mean if a couple is applying for flat, like it or not: that is already somewhat a soft proposal. Cheryl kind of agreed and was quite shocked when I told her that this phenomenon is pretty much the norm these days (you got to excuse her startling revelation considering the fact that she has been living overseas for quite a while).  

Pragmatic concerns may be important, but then again, even from a pragmatic point of view - if your relationship were to be terminated before you get your flat, the harsh penalty of 5% of purchase price will set you back easily by 20k - 30k, as compared to a proposal ring alone (unless you decide to blow a greater insane amount on a ring).

Hack, if your relationship is not yet secure but your flat is - it actually carries more risk than having to propose first and to plan out everything else later. After all, proposing itself IS already a commitment that you are taking this relationship a little bit further. It is pretty much the same as getting a flat together.

Also, planning does not necessarily mean getting the flat immediately after the proposal - you can decide what the relationship needs so that both of you can be more emotionally prepared for marriage. Being emotionally ready IS an important prerequisite.

Some people argued about the lack of time period to wait - my take is that if you are planning to live with this person for the rest of your life, your decide if this small fraction of time spent is worth the while in view of say a 40 - 50 years lifeline.

A relationship is more likely to succeed, even without a well-planned registration of BTO flat if its foundation is robust, as compared to having key to your BTO flat, but with a cui (feeble) relationship.


Saturday, August 31, 2013

Thursday, August 29, 2013

Aunt Agony 290813

Originally posted by redname:

do i really wanna be with my gf.........

i dnt know whether it's natural or not. sometimes i really wanna be with her, go out, share the good times but sometimes i just wanna be alone and find it a chore to go out.

I always thought tht when you like somebody, you always wanna go out and be with tht person but to me, this feelings of wanting to b with tht person changes, sometimes i'm dying to see her, sometimes i dnt feel anything.

this relationship seems to have much issues and everytime when something goes wrg, i keep thinking whether i shld hold on to this relationship or just let go.

we are of the age to get married and she did express to me tht she really wants to end up with me, i too want her but at the back of my mind, although I really want this to work out (she's a great girl lah), i can't convince myself tht i can promise what the future holds, so i can't tell her tht i share the same sentiments too cause i'm jus afraid sh!t happens.

PS: we've only been together for more than a month, so i wonder is it just part and parcel of a relationship :(. 


It's kind of hard to decide if you are going to end up marrying this lady since you are only dating her for a month plus. It is like deciding whether a book is great merely by reading the prologue.

In that sort of circumstances, I think it's hard for anyone - not just limited to you.

Since you are already in the relationship, you probably would have quite a fair bit of adjustment, compromising and negotiation to work on. These are part and parcel of a successful relationship; a marriage is never part of this deal until you transform this option into a choice and decide that this pursuit is worth the cons to bring it into a different level.

You probably only want to marry once. Hence, all other relationships would probably end before it reaches that line.

Learn to enjoy your relationship and let the universe take over (for now).

Cheers

Sunday, August 25, 2013

Why Developing Serious Relationships in Your 20s Matter

Are you in your twenties? Are you an entrepreneur? Have you been told by your friends, your advisors, and your professional peers that now is your time to build your own life and not worry about things like settling down and having children — especially if you’re a female entrepreneur?

It makes sense, right? This is the only time in your life when you have no ties, no mortgage, no kids to support. This is the only time you can really do something ambitious, if you’re being practical.

And let’s face it, you’re not ready anyway. You’re busy building your company, figuring out who you are, what you want. You get laid on a regular basis; it’s not like you don’t have a love life. A “love” life.

And everyone around you agrees. Everyone!

Now is the time to live! (By which you mean building the next change-the-world company, of course.) You’ve moved to New York. Or San Francisco. Or Palo Alto. Or Boston. With the express purpose of building something.

This is a noble cause. There is nothing more professionally satisfying as building something. Something you love. Something you can “get behind.”

But...

There was this girl. This guy.

Eh, fuck it. You’re busy. You have more important things to do. Changing the world is a full-time job and if you don’t do it now, when will you?

Here’s the thing: I know you. You’re probably one of the many people I’ve mentored or hired. On multiple occasions, you’ve explained to me (as if I were your batty old aunt, but I’m not taking it personally) that you have no time to get to know anyone because you’re busy doing your work.

This is a complete fallacy. Work and relationships are not incompatible. (Ask Mark Zuckerberg.)

I’ll wager that there is something about big transient cities that distorts everyone’s sense of time. You become convinced that you have time for everything you find challenging, that your ultimate horizon is infinite. This is only the beginning for you.

But you don’t know how much time you have. And even if things go well for you, your time is finite. You can’t figure out your professional life now and your personal life later. (Unless you’re the rare thirteen-year-old entrepreneur, in which case, I might demur.)

And here is why: As with coding and management and matters of finance and marketing, relationships have a learning curve. You learn the basics of “relationshiptiva” (note to copyed: yes, I made up that word): How to deal with sexual etiquette, mundane everyday things, scheduling, and appropriate meetings with close friends, and some equitable plan for who’s supposed to pay for dinner or wash the dishesthis time. These are basics. And if you’re learning them in your thirties, it’s going to be much harder.

Because in a few years, however young you think yourself (how old is thirty, really?), you will be approaching midlife and you won’t be as adaptable as you once were. There are reasons for this, many of which are biological. Your body won’t respond the same way. You’ll have knee problems that didn’t exist when you were running sophomore track. You can’t stay out till 4:00 a.m. anymore, because now the same alcohol intake has somehow resulted in a hangover that’s a multiple of what it once was — and you will never ever have appreciated a nice soft pillow more. And if you think you can fend these things off with diet and exercise, you should probably buy a good solid book on the aging process or find a professional athlete over the age of thirty to talk to. They will speak of massage therapists and bone density and necessary nutritional supplements. You can mitigate these things, but you can’t entirely avoid them.

But that is not the point. The point is that thirty (or thirty-two, or thirty-five) is not the age when you want to be practicing serious relationships for the first time. Because learning how to develop a meaningful, sustainable relationship and keep it healthy takes some extended practice. You have to get beyond the basics — the sexual negotiations and the decisions about whose clothes go where and how to talk about exes. You have to figure out how to fight well, how to negotiate major value conflicts (if you can — some are impossible), and how to deal with the inevitabilities that come your way.

And those inevitabilities are myriad: At some point, you and your partner will go through a period of disillusionment when someone else turns your head or your partner’s. Maybe you have an affair, maybe you don’t. At some point, one of you will have significantly more career success than the other. This will become a point of tension. As will the disparity in income that usually accompanies it. At some point, you will disagree on how to raise your child and you will each wield the child as the ultimate weapon in a battle of wills. (I’m just doing what’s best forour child!) And at some point, one of you will have a major life issue that costs you everything or close (cancer, financial ruin, miscellaneous crisis), and the other person will have to decide to commit to or not.

It’s not a question of whether each of these things will happen; it’s a question of when. And if you do decide to spend a life with someone, you have to decide that you are willing to face all of these things and acknowledge that some of them could happen sooner than you expect.

Relationships are too important to learn how to face those issues at the last minute. You have to go through a few of them to know how to properly conduct one. You have to fail. You have to date a few terrible people. You have to be the asshole yourself sometimes. You have to learn how not to be the asshole. You have to spend tons of time together — so much time that sometimes you feel indistinguishable from each other and you find that both reassuring and disturbing. You have to have a vicious fight and know it’s not ending you and that you’re going to have to work to repair it and that the effort is worthwhile. These things take time.

I’m not suggesting, mind you, that you settle down in your twenties. I don’t envision you in a ranch home in the suburbs at twenty-six, feeding your toddlers Cheerios and pureed organic carrots and carting them to and from soccer practice in the family [Missouri: Suburban; SoCal: Prius].

I’m just saying that it’s worth it to look at your romantic relationships nakedly. (Metaphorically, not literally. Unless that’s your thing — in which case, contemplate in the nude as much as you want.) Work at a relationship the way you work at your work. Spend the time. Make the effort.

You need the practice. You need to learn. Some of you can wait another ten or twenty years to do that. And some of you may be the rare bachelors and bachelorettes who have no intention of ever being in a serious committed relationship ever. But not most of you, especially if you’re envisioning a spouse and kids sometime before you can start collecting social security. You need time — and lots of it.

And you need to remember that work is not everything. I met my fiancé at work, which is not a way that Detached Professional Me would ever advise anyone to go about meeting people. Under the circumstances, we had to decide fairly quickly whether we were willing to get fired. What was more important: the job or the relationship? We picked the latter. Fortunately, nobody got fired. But if I had been sent packing, I wouldn’t regret it. Jobs are replaceable. People you truly love are not.

I think it’s fair to say — with no scientific evidence — that deathbed wishes rarely include, “If only I had put another twenty hours a week in at the office! That slightly cleaner product release would have made all the difference.” But that guy, that girl? You might regret that.

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Good read! After all, our cosmic lesson in love tends to become more costly at we aged (and we think inflation applies only to economics).

For original text, you can access it from here


Monday, August 12, 2013

Broken Woman and her Destiny (Part 2)

And thus, people believe that they are bounded by their destiny. The hideous past coming to haunt them, only to 'coerce' them to make a choice that set precedence for their future to be haunted by their present choice.

Before you know it, it has become a vicious cycle.

A destiny is forged.

Somehow, the woman in such a predicament failed to perceived the truth nature of her destiny; that destiny is in fact a summation and collection of all the choices she has made this lifetime. Till the day her life ends, the illusion of a ill-fated destiny creates a mechanism of being reasonable to be angry at life. Acceptance is rejected because she would believe that the destiny is 'created' by someone else.

Someone else... something out there... other than her...is responsible for her destiny. Hence, how can she accept something that is 'given' by someone?

She gave the abnegate the power of her choice and give up changing her destiny. She became a slave to her past.

With that thinking, her fate is really sealed. (To be continued...)


Saturday, August 10, 2013

Social Work is Chaos

Like a rejected child, the tenet of social work forms a confusing discipline that draws from all but belongs solely to neither medical, legal, psychological, philosophical, economical, educational, political, anthropological or sociological. Professionalism is therefore a problem because there has never been a discipline so confused and chaotic as social work. Social work is like a child wondering who your real parents were; trying to find its identity in the world of clear segregation and functions. Social work is important? Somewhat. Social work is scientific? Somewhat. Social work is an art? Somewhat. 

The truth of the matter is that social work is chaotic and chaos is uncomfortable for the scientific-precise folks who demands evidence-based practice and KPI to produce an effective outcome. The notion of effective outcome is not the problem; the question would be what is an effective outcome to even decide what it is to be effective? Is the desired outcome for every individual case objective enough for a logical apple-to-apple comparison? 

For example, if I have 10 same questions worth 10 marks each given to 40 students in a class - comparison is effortless. You can multiply the number of students in the class by tenfold and comparison is still effortless - since the test is upon 100 marks. Statistically speaking, you can churn out all the different reports and permutation easily with SPSS. However, it is not so clear-cut when you give one student two questions worth 10 marks each, another with six questions worth 3 marks each and the last with four question worth 7 marks each. How are you going to do your comparison in a meaningful way? 

Precisely, the chaos in social work cases is such that every case is-same-yet-different. I could have ten clinically depressed cases; yes, they are the same (clinically depressed via psychometric test), but each would have different content, story, history, processes and outcome. Medically, we all know that all you need is more than two weeks of continued sadness that affects some level of normal functioning - tata! You have it - clinical depression. Logically, we all know that the problem lies with the fact (and reality) that the variation of issues are just too many. Surely, a researcher could try to control the variables; you can find depressed clients due to spouse having EMA. But surely a client in his/her first marriage experiencing EMA would be different from one that is experiencing EMA in his/her third marriage. Or a client experiencing EMA with no significant adverse parental experience verses another one with family history of divorce due to EMA. And the list goes on. 

The social work game is just way too complex for a positivist paradigm. Therefore, a randomized trial test in a laboratory sense is difficult when you apply them to social science wholesale.  

Therefore, there are more values when social work align itself with social epidemiological paradigm - that truth is relative, relational and contextual.

If my above claims is true, therefore social work is chaotic.

And if my fellow social workers are uncomfortable with chaos, then you are in the wrong profession. 'Orderly Singapore' is not what you would expect in this field because you will never find two cases that are truly alike. You must be able to comprehend various body of knowledge and critically examined them all with an appraising eye. And like a skillful artist, reassemble them in a meaningful fashion for purposeful intervention. One must connect theory with practice and practice with theory - this is therefore professionalism. Not one that is marked by virtue of discipline, but by the marriage of higher wisdom and humble ground work. 

Enjoy chaos. 


P.S: Courtesy from Eleen. :)

Friday, August 02, 2013

Aunt Agony 020813

Originally posted by redname:

i just got attached recently


althou there's the sweetness of a new found relationship but there's also the bitterness of reality


we've been talking abt life and we find tht we have so much differences.


yesterday we had a phone call and I've been thinking abt what was mentioned over the phone.


1. she being the only child, had things easy for her. 


althou her family's not rich but she's the kind tht will spend a bit more once in a while for a better lifestyle (eg. branded stuff, go europe etc..) but for me, I'll keep it simple cause I do not wanna compromise my lifestyle just because i need to spend a bit more on some stuff. eg, i dnt wanna get a car cause tht will eat in a lot to my funds and i have to adjust my lifestyle just because of a piece of metal.


2. she says she's driven in work and tht she's disappointed that i'm relac one corner but the truth is tht i just dnt wanna stress myself. 


In addition, she's looking for a family man, someone who will love and place his family as 1st priority in life but the truth is tht being driven and having a family man doesn't go hand in hand.


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I just feel that she seems to wanna put me in this mold/idea she has for a man she wants and not wanting to take me for who i am.


i really hate this feeling cause i always believe tht if u wanna love someone, u love him/her for his good and bad and not to only want his/her good and dnt want his/her bad


I'll highlight this to her the next time we talk abt this and tell her either she take me for who i am or dnt take me at all


PS: she's my 1st gf (althou i'm over 30 already) and I know it'll break my heart more than it breaks her's




The reactive self is often triggered when one is being challenged by the presence of a relationship to change ourselves.

It is pretty much an illusion if one expects the existence of a new relationship to fit very well into the life of an individual. Most of the time, some degree of adjustments and negotiations have to take place. After all, living in your own skin for a good thirty odd years as a singleton and literally sharing a sofa with a 'stranger' inside your inner state of comfort zone is surely a new experience. I believe this is not something that you could easily adjust immediately and would require some effort on your part to accept.

If your above mentioned values were to be the foremost qualities that you seek in a partner, then in the first place this relationship wouldn't have manifested. Hence, something 'stronger' is likely to be pulling you; which is a sense of emotional connectedness or what I would term as a Love and Belonging need being satisfied.

Definitions of things may differ; but that does not automatically mean it is a gone deal. Talking about each definition of value and what it means to both of you would help to clarify each other's belief. With each then putting forth a position of whether you could agree to disagree, yet willing to do something to bring each other's position harmoniously closer for the relationship is critical.

Sticking to your gun works well with individual's identity, but are generally bad for well-being of relationship. While I am not saying that good relationship demands weak-willed individuals; it depends largely on your choice and the battle you pick to fight. More often than not, good communication does help to lessen several possible bloodshed that could have been minimized or avoided.

You choose your relationship - not the other way round; therefore, you decide how much you want to put into the relationship before you raise the white flag. You can logically decide that she is not the one given the 'problems' listed. Just remember that for every problem we avoid facing, we are pretty much missing on the opportunity for self growth.

One for one.

Cheers

Monday, July 29, 2013

Broken Woman and her Destiny (Part 1)

Apologies for the inactive posting; my forum has been rather quite dead these days and my personal schedule has been rather packed. Told myself that I shall at least post today.

You see, I am already dealing with a lot of emotions and problems during the course of my offline work. Sometimes, it creates an inverse relationship with my blogging life. Basically what I mean is that the more intensive my offline work becomes, the less I am inclined to blog.

Self care is something critical to keep my mind sane. I can't be dealing with problems 24/7 and I do have quite a busy personal life.

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Today's topic is about love and choices - which I deemed this as the foremost principle in love (in CloUdism of course).  It is almost like I have engraved it my own words in some gold plated plaque, constantly being reminded by this principle regardless of how my own book of love has evolved over the years.

Love is involuntary; relationship is voluntary. Therefore, it is we who chose our partners, not the other way round. 

I came across a severely broken woman, who has made a couple of 'unwise' choices as perceived by her own peers and bystanders. The process to pick herself up is tremendously encumbering; each attempt being marred by another bout of unwise choice and resulting in a downward spiral to bleak hell.

The profile of this lady is a classic one; one that blames her destiny and the men she met. It is always the men around her and that she has played the cast and recite the script of a sorry love life for ages. Each recitation reaffirmed the fact that her destiny is at such pitiful stage and that she proceeds with her love life almost like a chance gamble - never stopping for a quiet introspection to decide if her journey in her love life is heeding towards an accident.

It is unfortunate that her love and belonging need is way too intensive till the point that she fulfills them in an ineffective way; the inability to manage her fear of loneliness, reinforced over and over again by tons and tons of bad childhood experience. That having someone 'lousy' is still better than having 'nobody'.

Thus, the choice is a logical one. Keep the bad ass then.

Because they have been taught that they are unloving and that they deserved only such caliber of partner/s.

(To be continued)

Friday, June 28, 2013

Aunt Agony 280613

Originally posted by Detached:

Ok the joke’s on me..

We had been casually going out since early months of the year, and getting along pretty well. Out of ‘fun’ (for lack of better word), she even became my ‘pseudo-girlfriend’ during the CNY period when our families were nagging about our singlehood status.

Sensing a connection, I began to woo her. During the time of courtship, she might have some residual unresolved past hurts from her last relationship – which she somewhat managed to resolve or buried – but that is of little importance. It was very natural, I read her very well and we enjoyed each other’s company very much. And when time was ripe, I told her to have faith and take a gamble with me – that I ask for nothing except for her to be happy.

She agreed and we became an item.

It was fun, romantic and surreal. I’ve been in enough relationships to say that this is something I never had before. And somewhere along the way, I lost myself and became that selfish, insecured and possessive guy; and my expectations from nothing rocketed to sky-high.

And no, she wasn’t the problem – my fears were unfounded; probably because I, in my folly, wanted to defend against ‘threats that weren’t even there’, being jealous of sh!ts that didn’t matter totally. Not to mention, she’s one hell of an attractive woman and there were guys circling around her constantly (she fended them off). I failed to see that her acceptance is the greatest assurance she could give and finally she left. My petty ways had worn her out finally.

It had been 3 weeks since ground zero, she had long retrieved her clothes and belongings from my place, I have past the depressed/despair stage. And what we have left is the awkwardness and running-out-of-topics in the conversations that she or I sometimes initiate, oh yea we are also colleagues.. so not very cool yea..

I see so much potential in this and through the spilt, I realized many things about
myself which I resolve to change. She’s one heck of a great girl, and I hate to simply walk away and leave everything to the wind. I want to fight for this, but I got nothing to hold on to except the awkwardness and a ‘friendship’ which isn’t real.

Should I walk? Or should I fight on? I want to brace on, but how?


Adopting a stance that you cannot upkeep will only serve to burst into a flame of nothingness somewhere down the line. You started off with the flirting and causal dating, which might gave her the impression that you are easy-going, confident and non-possessive. She probably realized that the price she is going to pay to remain in this relationship isn't worth the value in exchange - getting out is probably an easier option.

Being colleagues certainly complicate the matter a little, especially when you have to work with her. It is hard to draw boundary - between professional and personal - and fighting on (in your definition) might end up a HR issue.

Somehow, you get the sense that this gnawing insecurity is ruining the potentiality of a good relationship. However, this is one hell of a devil that is arduous to surmount: you are likely to have anxious attachment - in which your anxiety unconsciously starts pumping in the minute you sense your partner is not giving you the attention, love and expectation that you need. You seek for anecdotal signs that would suggest (even subtle ones) that partner do not love you, even if it sounds illogical when you share them openly.

You might be able to accept things logically, but emotionally, it is a hard fight within.  

Perhaps seeing this woman as a catalysis to awake your motivation for self improvements could spur inner change. After all, when we fail to change our environment, we are challenged to change ourselves.

Cheers

Monday, June 17, 2013

There



"There" seeks to elucidate an episode of how/what a person thinks, at the beginning of a relationship, in Singapore.

We often describe this moment as the sweetest. During this period, when the relationship is about to begin, all they wanted was to know more about each other. It is the moment of exploration and aspiration for both the individuals.

This short film allows you to see what unveils in the mind of our character and what appears in his or her thought, just when the moment is about to begin and wanting to be There.

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A short film done by my hommies; you can check out their FB page (wemerrygoround) @ here

:)

Aunt Agony 170613

Originally posted by Authenticity86:

i had a 2 years plus gf and we just broke up recently. we were that close to getting married and my last attempt to make her stay was to propose to her but i failed. this break up feels like a divorce. we still love each other but we have to get over our r/s. im still in a state of denial that she left and i dont wanna get over her. i need help

Getting married isn't the problem - the relationship is. The relationship does seem pretty fragile if you have to attempt a proposal of that nature, so as to keep the relationship going - almost like an empty shell decorated with shiny gemstones.

A broken relationship does not mean a broken man - even if the relationship has to go, make sure you figure out the meaning behind your lost as an alternative to being in state of denial.

Cheers

Sunday, June 02, 2013

Aunt Agony 020613

Originally posted by defiante:

My husband and I got married only after 1 yr of dating. I feel the decision to get married n to have a kid immediately is a wrong start. We r now into 6th yr of marriage n have 2 kids. We actually dont know each other well. 

Lately he is bk to his gaming.  As a result, once bk fr work, he is always on his hp or laptop.  I feel so lonely.  Everyday he plays till 2am n sat he plays till 4am. As a result,  I dont get to talk to him much. In fact I feel sian to talk to him cos he will forget anything we talk about. He gets headache v often. So will sleep n I hav to take care if the kids. I m quite sickly myself. After working so long hrs, I also want to play, watch tv. At most I can only do all these for about 30min. Its ok to b so busy but at least he shd help more. How I wish he can b my support. He cant stand anyone crying. So I always cry in the toilet. Yesterday I cried in front of my kids. 

I m v tired n lonely.  To b fair, he does washing milk bottles daily. N sweep floor once or twice a week. But our place is v dusty n I have sensitive nose so sometimes I cannot wait n will sweep the floor myself. Cupboard also dusty n need to wipe. All of these he dont do n refuse to hire maid n part time helper. 

 I feel v tired n v unhappy. I know there are many women out there who r worse than me. But I want to know am I childish to want him to spend time with me ?  Am I wrong to ask him to sleep when he is playing games till 4am? Is it acceptable for him to scold him cos I ask him to stop playing at 4am? Is it selfish for me to want him to settle housework first like sweep floor before playing? Is it acceptable for him to say that this is a fucked up family?

Am I creatng trouble? That's what he says.



Based on research, on a general level; martial satisfaction tends to dip upon the existence of the couple's first child. It's not rocket science though; with dual income situation and parenthood being an entirely new experience - stress is pretty much the same outcome for most modern Singaporean family. The only difference is that all couples manage this stress differently. Relationships that have superior resilience are often those that spent conscious amount of effort to communicate, negotiate, compromise and empathize during courtship and beyond (some are fortunate to start during marriage and before the relationship totally died on them).  

However, because we have not been parents before this phase, our 'methods' of dealing with parenthood are often 'inherited' from what we experienced from our caregivers during our early childhood. Therefore, if your husband's father has limited involvement in his life when he was a child, unless he is an enlightened soul, the probability of him reiterating this social learning is high. It might be worst if his family background is the traditional makeup of housewife mother and sole income father. Though our society has evolved, but our attitude towards family development might not have caught up.  

Your love and belonging needs are of great importance to you; you badly want to connect with your husband emotionally so as to justify the reasons for all task related child-rearing roles you have submerged yourself in. Having quality time is simply one way you could feel connected. Hence, I do not see it as 'creating trouble' much more than you having an unsatisfying relationship. 

He does seem to exhibit signs of avoidance; he may sense that you are overwhelmed, but may not know the impact of this stress on you. Playing games appears to be a coping mechanism for him and since you don't share the same mechanism as him; crying is your coping stance.

I am not sure; how negotiable is he as a husband? Surely, some structural agreements are required before things escalate out of control.

I) Individual Needs

How can he balance the need for gaming verses the need for household responsibility? Also, how can you balance your need for your husband's affection and your children's need? Surely, he could go play his game if he has swept the floor (if that was your prior agreement) or you could spent one weekend getaway once every two passing months. Whatever the mutual agreement, it HAS to be (i) sustainable - something you can possibly do in long term, (ii) realistic - something that can be done realistically, (iii) accepted - something that must be accepted mutually and agreed.

II) Conflict Management

Suppression of feelings does not solve problems, but only seek to avoid issues. If he is uncomfortable with tears, then since it is not something that you can do it alone, he would need to know what requires him on his part to help you with. Surely, he cannot control your choice to cry (no matter how unconscious it may be), but certainty you know what would help you to feel supported and this needs has to be communicated.  

P.S: Seemed to me that he appears to hold stronger power in this relationship. If you need support, you would have to start negotiating and communicating - if it does not come naturally, then learn to take control of your relationship.

Friday, May 24, 2013

How do you negotiate with your other half?


Watch how couples negotiate so as to win a pair of tickets to London. It's kind of a cool concept, but not as easy as one would reckon.

Watch it!

Sunday, May 12, 2013

Aunt Agony 120513


Originally posted by Jango:

This topic is about my feelings and thoughts on two person,X and Y.Let me bring you through.

I met this lady,X,during one of the events held in school.We started off quite formal and simple while working together.But as time passes by,the formality wore off and began to took and interest in her.She's cute,bubbly and most importantly,kind and caring.Although I can't say why she's more vulgar than me at times but there's a sense of innocence in her that lead me to admire her characteristics more.She's very thoughtful of other people and can be quite blur.

Then after that event,probably the whole school(through rumours) knew that X was currently dating someone else.I felt sad,but there's nothing to do...we can't force someone to like you,that's morally wrong.Being me,I've decided to move on from this spark and carry on with the daily live without spending much thought about her.There's probably some regret in me for not taking the first step,but ya,time wait's for no men.X to me back then,was just a friend.

Few months past and I'd developed a liking for Y,another lady who is much more independent,more stunning in looks(not the main point though),smart and many other good traits I can think of.This is someone that I'd yearned of in my life,the partner that I've always wanted.She knows that I'm somehow interested in her,though we are kind of like strangers.And the most shocking thing,X and Y are best friends.

I'd soon turned back to X(as a friend)  as she'd just broken up with her dating partner(don't think they got together but they broke off due to some reasons I'm unclear of).X then talk me through how she has been after the break up and I comforted her with my texts,caring for her like I always do for those friends close to me.(How people talked about her etc etc)We both shared a lot of stuff and I'd even told her about Y.

Then,she told me that Y has a liking for someone else...I'm a bit depressed but not so emotional to the point that I could cry as after all,Y is just another lady.My heart became dull.

Right now,I'm trying to figure out who do I like,X or Y.

X recently got angry with me because I might have been rude to her in messaging.(I do make mistakes)She ignored me for this few days...

But I feel that I want our friendship to be alive,instead of being enemies.Maybe it's due to the fact that I'm not used to us being not close together again...

I wanna get a partner,Y is the ideal one and X is someone that I've never expected...

Any advice to share?

I will appreciate and be thoughtful of all suggestions and criticisms given to me.

Thanks.:)




You know what you want for a partner - that's highly personalized and relative. Your ideal partner probably fits this picture in your quality world, but on the reverse, others may not have the same picture of you in their quality world. (Anyway, many people would appear to be ideal... until the day they somehow get together).

My sense is that the reason why you hold reservation towards pursing either one of these ladies is likely due to your fear of rejection. Somehow, it seemed to me that though you are 'picking the cherries' to decide who should you be with, but when your targets have shown interest elsewhere, you hastily back off and rationalize with yourself that this is 'morally wrong' - so let's move on.

Let me clarify something: the desire to move on isn't wrong; it is the logic behind the usage of these quotes, masked as reasons, that are fundamentally flawed.

There is nothing fundamentally or morally wrong with liking someone. In fact, it is almost an involuntary urge or response that one has little control over. Hence, when you claimed that you can't force anyone to like you - that's essentially correct. But it is puzzling on how you could claim this premise to be true for your situation when you haven't even started doing anything for her to even response to you in a manner where the statement is applicably true (e.g. like she has rejected you and shared that you and her are impossible).

It is akin to entering a restaurant and expressing that you are not dining here because it probably looks expensive. My point is that you haven't even ask/check about the price to make any informed decision. Hence, your behavior is probably a result of intra-personal issues that you have problems to deal with (e.g insecurity, fear of rejection, etc) and not likely because of the reasons you have stated in your post.

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I find your question puzzling: who should you choose: X or Y?

Unless you are saying that these two girls fancy you and you have a reasonable chance of entering into a relationship with either one of them - if not, I don't see why you are implicated with the 'burden' of choice.

What you are probably asking is who you should consider chasing. However, if this question even pops out the way it does (and would sound a little absurd) - then the likely answer is none.

I will give you an analogy: if I go to the market and buy a fish, I would choose based on its freshness and price. Then I will proceed to cook and eat it. There is no need for me to get feedback or response from the fish. There is no requirement to build rapport and develop relationship with it. It simply fulfill my survival need. I do not need to consider fulfilling the fish's needs as any attempt to fulfill the latter would automatically make me sound absolutely absurd. Likewise, love isn't going to a market place to buy fish, cook and eat it - you kind of need to get feedback, response, develop rapport and relationship and on later stage, fulfill certain mutual needs.

It is not a linear relationship.  

In addition, there are no immediate backup plans in genuine love. Such intricate systems to formulate backup plans are purely psychological mechanism to deal with our own deeper issues (fear of rejection, fear of loneliness, delusion, fantasy, etc).

Perhaps you are probably more in love with the notion of having a relationship, than being in love with the figure that you mentioned. You might want to figure out if this is something you want to resolve within.

Cheers

Friday, May 10, 2013

Aunt Agony II 100513 (Continued from AA 110413)


Originally posted by Wtongzl78:

I've had a talk with her early last week after her she came back from Phuket with him. I told her I have become uncomfortable that she has spent more and more time with him and that she has gone for more and more overseas trips with him. I also told her that people have started to talk.

But she became upset that I brought up this matter and insisted that there is nothing between her and him and that I should not interfere too much into her life and choice of her good friend and travel companion. She bacame angry and stormed off and refused to talk to me for the next few days. 

She resumed talking to me again last Thursday but i can sense that she is still not happy. But at least she has started talking to me again and i hope she got the message even though in the process i have upset her.

But tomorrow she's going overseas with him again. He will be on working trip to Hong Kong and she will just tag along as accomodation has been paid for by his company. They will be in Hong Kong till Sunday. This is not the first time she tag along with him for his working trips overseas. She has done so many times over the years and each trip they would extend the stay for 1-2 days more on top of the official days paid by his company. He  has also tagged along on her overseas working trips many times.

Maybe it's partly my fault to let her have so much freedom in the first place. She has have freedom even before we got married.  I was okay with it as I trusted her. 2 years ago she went backpack with him to Europe and US for 3 months,  I wasn't entirely happy but still could accept it.   Friends and relatives started to talk from then on but I just ignored. Perhsps she has taken things for granted and forgot about my feeling. 

She came back from Hong Kong last night and was in a very good mood. Bought me and the kids lots of stuff. I didn't want to tslk about this matter last night coz I don't want to spoil the occasion with argument. 




When we communicate in relationship, we often opt for the 'safer' systemic way of getting our message across in an indirect fashion. We expressed that 'people are talking about it' or that we are just 'uncomfortable'. But when we unmask the packaging, the truth of the matter is that you abhor the thought of how this situation has developed to such an uncontrolled manner.

Her right to travelling companions or good friends is something that you have no control over? Quite different from your original concept of you 'allowing' this to happen, isn't it? A more troubled thought might actually be the fact that you are also afraid of what is coming - when we fail to clear up dust in the room for too long a period, sometimes, we are also fearful of what we might actually find. Dead cockroach? Spider and its well-spun web? Or simply just dust needing to be cleaned?

If you are trying to find (or hopefully trying not to uncover) evidence of her possible infidelity, then naturally your sense would be to detect anomaly in her statement, choice and behavior. My guess is that you will eventually find something of varying degree if your focus is as such. Well, if I don't clear my room for too long, it is only natural to encounter at least a dust mite, if I decide to look deep enough.  

However, what you fear you might find or what you think you would find should not be the main considerations of what you ought to do. Namely, even if I may fear dead roaches lying somewhere in my cupboard, it shouldn't fetter me from spring cleaning because the fact of the matter is that if there is indeed a dead roach in my cupboard, nothing I can do now will change this very fact that the cockroach is dead right there.

I can only decide what I can do ONLY after I have decided upon my choice of spring cleaning. Who knows? Perhaps there are no dead roaches ultimately. Hence, what you gain is a peace of mind.

You made a good attempt at surfacing this issue to her; however, a bigger issue lies with (1) your insecurity & (2) the lack of power in the relationship. I hope you do realize that despite your attempt to start talking about this, she does not answer directly, but chose to exhibit a statement of power to coerce you into accepting her individuality.

[Quote: I should not interfere too much into her life and choice of her good friend and travel companion]

When I talk about insecurity, it does seem to me that you might have a coping mechanism through placating where you minimize or downplay your needs in view of harmony. Hence, the cosmic lesson for you in your marriage is to decide between avoiding (for social harmony) and confronting (for self expression). The latter probably put you in state of discomfort - you might want to find a way to communicate your needs and set a mutually agreed boundary.

Cheers

Aunt Agony 100513 (Continued from AA 160413)


Originally posted by soccer123

Yunhaier, thank you for your reply. Your reply is very insightful and thought-provoking.

It has been exactly one month since this mis-step happened. and one month later, i guess it is all over, hopefully.

1) Guilt

Yes, this past month had alot of happy moments with S, but there are also lots of guilt and heavy baggage that came with it. The state of having 2 girls at 1 time is very unbearable. On the one hand, the intense sense of guilt that keep oozing out from my heart. On the other, the constant worry that i / we would be found out, no matter wad we do, be it talking in office, walking on the streets, etc. THis feeling is unsustainable and at times, driving me crazy. recently, i am watching a taiwanese drama about marriage and 3rd parties. can totally relate to the feelings portrayed in the drama. Even the progression phases are the same. From sweet innocent Ai4 mei4, to managing both parties, to unbearable feelings to breakdowns. Its as though i am living the drama.

2) 'Twisted courage to get out of her relationship'

U are right, but not totally on this. It is very true that S is unhappy in this relationship w her bf. But she kept emphasising that there is no turning back for her. The passion or liking she has for me might or might not give her a fleeting moment of courage to leave her bf. But 2 things held true, and probably still will: if she will indeed leave, it will not b me as the reason (at the very least, i cannot be directly involved); and she knew she cannot do this.

3) about her impending marriage as an output.. 

Again, i feel u r right. But i can only hope that she and her bf will end up better in time to come. she said to me before, she will be happy. she can make things better and things will be back to normal and she can focus on her bf. Will that make her happy? It's no longer about me anymore.

4) about my gf.

I am very relieved that there are still alot of spark between us. at least over long distance calls and video chats. Some recent events woke me up and i realised that its my gf whom i really want to be with. i took more initiative to video call her, to tell her how much i miss her (i really do, even more so after these events), even if once in a while i may have a split thought on whether i miss my gf so much is because i feel lonely that S is 'gone' or not. I would like to think its not, it's more of i really want to cherish my gf. A fundamental question, will think about this when things are more cooled down.

5) Some recent event..

Some recent event changed the entire face of this relationship between S and me. i would prefer not to go into details, but in summary, it went smth like this:

S's bf got very suspicious about S and me and he did some drastic measures. S and me got very worried at certain points, worried that her bf might jeopardise everything and tell whatever he knew / thought to everyone. It is a truth that S and me have betrayed our respective partners emotionally and physically. But it is really not true that we will snatch each other away from our partners. We both agree that we cannot be each other's reason for leaving our partners should the day comes. and S also said she will see through her marriage. So if her bf manages to find something, he would find the truth (about the liking part) and might link it to thinking that i am around to snatch S away from him. (which is not true). But come to think of it, wadever its true or not, doesn't matter anymore. I have sinned, and that's a fact.

So we got very worried, and in particular, me. Because i did not want to jeopardise everything and hearing S's bf's threats, about wanting to go to my gf, family and friends and tell her about me, made me very uneasy. Maybe its my cowardice, or maybe its the moment that made me think why i was in such a situation. I had to protect the people around me and not let them come to hurt. (maybe some of u may feel instead that i am protecting myself, but i really did not want anybody to be hurt, including S and her bf).

So i decided, and made up my choice. 

S was very, very disappointed and upset and she has since returned to her bf, even though her bf did something very very drastic which disgusted her and she said she would give him one last chance. S is avoiding me now.

THis is what had panned out. One of my friend told me that it is considered a better ending already. still, a tinge of sadness remains, seeing how S got so upset and resigned herself to the decision she made before. i still have feelings for S, but i know i cannot have hers. If i have both, my sufferings will only be more and prolonged. But for S, i don't know when i will be able to get over her.







In love, there are two classic dimensions which are often in state of conflicts or confusion: one ruled by reasons and the other governed by emotions. Hence, it is rather a common pattern for one to 'say one thing and feel another'. I will quote your own personal experience: similarly, you have decided to do what is the 'best' for your situation - essentially the lesser of the two evils - but that does not mean that you remain unscathed from the choice you made.

Why would I say this?

If reason had the stronger hold on her, then it makes no sense for her to feel 'disappointed or upset' - since this choice is rationally efficient (having her needs fulfilled before she pays the full cost of infidelity) and it is supposedly the outcome that both of you have expected and anticipated. Obviously, the presence of disappointment would naturally mean that there must be an unspoken expectation on her part, likely to be hidden deeper in her psyche, away from prying eyes.

Hence, I would still maintain the point that she is waiting for 'someone' to rescue her from the pits of hell.

Her unfortunate revelation is that eventually she figured that you are not the armored knight she is hoping you would evolve to be - descending into the pits to face the demons. Facing the morality of your own fears and actions, she has nothing other than full acceptance in the brute reality of your incontestable choice: simply described as insufficient amount of love for you to do anything beyond this point for the relationship.

There is nothing to be ignominious about; it's just a matter of the kind of cosmic lessons desired to be taught by love through the presence of this circumstances. You figured out what you want to do and how this episode has revealed about your relationship with yourself and your gf. Great.

In time to come, she would also figure out something critical, relative to her experience.

The last chance she is giving him appears more like a last chance she is giving herself. The point is that without catalysis, the likelihood of her bf remaining the way he is stands high. Hence, whatever feeble chance she has decided to give without communication and negotiation of needs will likely to fail.

But that's not for you to manage.

Unless you have decided to unsheathe your sword and plunge into hell gloriously.

And that's probably another topic for another day.

Cheers

Thursday, May 09, 2013

Skeletons discovered holding hands in coffin together


You can read the actual article here

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Archaeologists excavating the inner courtyard of a former Dominican monastery may have discovered a Romanian Romeo and Juliet after unearthing the bodies of a young couple who were buried holding hands.
Experts from the Cluj-Napoca Institute of Archaeology and History of Art are working on what they believe is the former cemetery of the monastery have already uncovered several bodies

But discovering the couple holding hands was a surprise as double burials were extremely rare in that period.


Main researcher Adrian Rusu said: 'It is a mystery - and rare for such burials at that time.


We can see that the man had suffered a severe injury that left him with a broken hip from which he probably died. We believe the injury was caused after he was hit by something very blunt and hard.'

Because of the fact that the young woman obviously died at the same time and was presumably healthy we are speculating that she possibly died of a broken heart at the loss of her partner.

Mr Rusu explained that becuase suicide was regarded as a sin in the Medieval Ages it is unlikely she killed herself - and if she had they would not have been buried together like the were in a holy place.

'They were obviously buried together as a tribute to the love they had for each other,' he said.
He estimated that the two bodies were buried somewhere between 1450-1550.

The body of a child was also found in the grave in Cluj-Napoca although this may not have been linked to the pair.

The lower leg bones of a fourth skeleton were also found in the burial plot.



Cheers

Sunday, April 28, 2013

Aunt Agony 280413

Originally posted rachel_ella:

Hi!


I had gone through a very rough period last Sep to Nov. My relationship with my MIL is at its worst state especially when she asked me to return the jewellery she had given to me when I got married. She had been very unhappy about my attitude towards her like not asking her how her day was and not coming out of my room to greet her when she came over. She called up my hubby while he was at work and gave her 'feedback' daily and that caused fraustrations and pressure on hubby.


Eventually, hubby found a confidant, his staff from China, who just seems to be able to understand what he is going through and agreed that I had been rude to my MIL. They started a relationship. MIL knew about her existance and told hubby to bring her home since she is an obedient and nice woman who will be nice to her.


Hubby suggested to cool off for a period but I refused to and insisted trying my best to salvage my marriage. MIL was very supportive of me trying to salvage my marriage and lent me her shoulder to weep on when I went to the rough period. I was very grateful of her support and hubby & I started picking up the pieces together again but he could not let go of his confidant from China.


It just happened that I found out they had spent a night together at a hotel and he had made hotel bookings before but I have no idea who he went with. MIL had been nice to me since but recently hubby's China confidant forwarded me a pic of her with MIL, together with the msg, "Bet you don't know about all these outings and I'm being accepted." I informed hubby and he asked her about the pic. She said she did not send. Hubby told me she is a very simple person and that may be an accident. However, without her sending me the pic, I will never know about MIL actually met her in person and gone out with her.


I felt very betrayed and hurt. Hubby cannot stop seeing her although he had been treating me very well and MIL had been nice to me too. I felt I am living with people who are keeping things from me. I am well educated and holds a respectable job, I do my best to make hubby feels proud of me infront of his friends which I succeed. However, hubby felt difficult to let go of her cos she is not as good as me. Is it my fault to be a working woman but not able to give MIL my attention due to work? Is being too capable a flaw? Please help.




Your situation does seem a little awkward; something that could easily be perceive as a morally questionable outcome is somewhat culturally accepted in the family. This leads me to wonder about the circumstances leading to your process of getting married. Your focus also appears to emphasize on your career dimension and how this leads to 'face quality' for your husband.

In that nutshell, I am just curious about how did it get embedded into your perspective - that this is an important value that needs great attention, insofar that other things (e.g. positive regards for your in laws) somehow gets compromised.

Also, your mother-in-law does seem to have a major influence on the way your husband run his relationship. If his definition of love revolves around having positive relationship with his mother, then certainty it would make reasonable sense for his behaviour. In some ways, it is likely to be a mix of reasons and excuses, where he conveniently seeks out someone 'outside' the content of his relationship, instead of opting to work things out.

After all, this third party has already been endorsed by the dowager; almost like some special permit.

In addition, if there is severe power imbalance in this relationship against you, then it does spell some degree of unfairness, suppression and trouble. Having one person to fulfill the 'face quality', another to fulfill the mother's liking and two to fulfill a combination of emotional/physical needs - this is the best of three worlds, isn't it?

Being capable isn't a fault of it's own - it's the sacrifice we accept as part of being capable that is the problem. Reasonably, working fifteen hours a day may make you a productive and valuable player in your work team, but surely, that would also mean that you are sacrificing quality time in your family for such pursuit.

However, I do feel that your struggle is unique (as mentioned in my first paragraph about how ironic your circumstances are) and my sense (I may be wrong) is that it may have something to do with your self worth. I do believe your current position is painful.

Do you have anyone in your network (e.g. friends/family) supporting you emotionally? Do anyone know about your situation?

Cheers

Thursday, April 25, 2013

The man who keeps falling in love with his wife



Just want to share an interesting read. The actual article can be found here

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When a virus destroyed part of his brain, Clive Wearing was left with no memory. He is still trapped in an eternal present. Yet he does remember that he loves his wife, Deborah. Here she tells their heartbreaking story

Clive had no idea that Tuesday, March 26, 1985 would be his last day of conscious thought. We weren't ready. Did he feel his brain disappearing that night? Why didn't he wake me? By morning he could not answer a simple question or remember my name. The doctor said it was flu and a lack of sleep that was causing the confusion. He tucked him up with a temperature of 104 and a bottle of sleeping pills.

"No need to stay home," he said to me. "These'll knock him out for eight hours. Go to work."

I went to work. When I came home that night the bed was empty. His pyjamas lay crumpled in the middle of the bare sheet. I screamed his name. Running the length of the flat, I already knew something bad had happened.

"I'm never ill," Clive used to say. And he never was. Then all of a sudden he was. But instead of a normal illness, this one is rare, sneaky. Nobody knew what was wrong with him: not the taxi-driver who found him wandering the streets that night, nor the policeman who traced his address from his credit card and called me.

When we finally got him to St Mary's Hospital, Paddington, the doctors thought he was a goner. Only they didn't put it like that. They told me what they thought he might have, and said it had a high mortality rate. I didn't know if that meant probably live or probably die, and I didn't like to ask.

The diagnosis came 11 hours after our arrival at St Mary's. A virus had caused holes in Clive's brain; his memories had fallen out. The doctors said it was encephalitis, from herpes simplex, the cold-sore virus. The virus, they explained, lies dormant in most of the population. Once in a blue moon it slips its moorings, and instead of going to the mouth it goes to the brain. The brain swells up, and, before long, brain crushes against bone.

The virus does its damage before anyone knows it is there. Affected areas include temporal lobes, occipito-parietal and frontal lobes... thalamus, hypothalamus, amygdala; it just keeps on storming through. The part it wipes out completely is the hippocampus, Greek for seahorse. These structures are what we use for recall and remembering, and laying down new thoughts.

By the time they had figured out what was wrong with Clive and started pumping anti-viral drugs into him, all he had left where his memory used to be were seahorse-shaped scars. He could not remember a single thing that had ever happened to him, but he remembered me and knew that he loved me.

August, 1985: "How long have I been ill?''

"Four months."

"Four months? Is that F-O-R or F-O-U-R (ha ha!)?"

"F-O-U-R."

"Well, I've been unconscious the whole time! What do you think it's like to be unconscious for... how long?''

"Four months."

"Four months! For months? Is that F-O-R or F-O-U-R?"

"F-O-U-R."

"I haven't heard anything, seen anything, smelled anything, felt anything, touched anything. How long?"

"Four months."

"... four months! It's like being dead. I haven't been conscious the whole time. How long's it been?"

After two weeks, I decided it was legitimate to start saying, "Nearly five months," to skip the joke. It was all I could do to manage the dialogue itself, but finding the patience to react each time as if for the first time - so that he wouldn't feel that I was ignoring him - was sometimes beyond me.

Clive was constantly surrounded by strangers in a strange place, with no knowledge of where he was or what had happened to him. To catch sight of me was always a massive relief - to know that he was not alone, that I still cared, that I loved him, that I was there. Every time he saw me, he would run to me, fall on me, sobbing, clinging. It was a fierce reunion.

"I thought I was dead," he would say, "if I had any thoughts at all."

If I left Clive's side, the impact of my reappearance after a trip to the bathroom, a word with a nurse, was no less than at my first appearance that day. Clive was living in an abyss, and then out of nowhere, without any warning, I, his wife, would appear over the rim, right there in the room with him.

Sometimes his right arm shot up in the air and he would sing a high note, a little cadenza, he would lift me up and swing me round and laugh, then stop and hold me and look at me, study my face, grinning, searching to see if I had cottoned on to the fact that he was awake now, alive, truly seeing me.

"I can see you!" he'd announce triumphantly. "I'm seeing everything properly now!" It was hard to look excited and delighted for the umpteenth time on one visit, but being besotted with him helped. I was always delighted to see his face, to hold him and kiss him. Before he'd been ill, we would greet each other whenever we found ourselves in the same room together.

When we met at the end of the day or in the street or at rehearsal (Clive was a conductor and BBC music producer when the illness struck), we always hurried to reach each other, passionate and full of affection. So, although it was painful when Clive was so distressed, hugging him for some minutes after a visit to, say, the bathroom, was in keeping with our relationship.

In spite of Clive's amnesia, inside he retained his fundamental intelligence: the same intelligence that had propelled him throughout his career. He was often lucid and, apart from occasional episodes when he was full of rage, he was himself. That was what made his condition all the more horrific.

Clive no longer had any episodic memory, that is, memory for events. Clive did not have the brain parts necessary to recall anything that had happened to him in the whole of his life. But, as is the case with amnesia, he could remember general things. For example, Clive knew that he was married, although he was unable to recall our wedding - a civil ceremony in Camden Town Hall in September, 1983.

He could not have described my appearance, although he knew me as soon as he saw me. He knew he was a musician and conductor, but could not recall any concert. He knew his children by his first marriage - two sons and a daughter, all grown up - but expected them to be much smaller and wasn't sure how many he had. He was surprised to see that The Times no longer had personal columns on its front page, and thought it would cost fourpence, a pre-decimalisation price.

He knew his own name and the names of his siblings and childhood family. He knew facts about his childhood life: where he grew up, where he was evacuated to in the war. He knew that he went to Clare College Cambridge, on a choral scholarship, opting against King's because "everybody wanted to go there".

After that, his sense of his own autobiography got a bit hazy. It was just as well we'd been together six-and-a-half years, or he might not have been able to remember me.

We were looking around for treatment, a brain-injury rehabilitation programme that would take him on. But could rehabilitation stick when nothing else had? Clive could not remember the sentence before the one he was in. Conversation, watching television or reading were beyond him.

I learned that amnesic people have some residual learning capacity that is implicit; they can learn through a kind of conditioning process. A person can learn to respond to certain stimuli even if they think it is their first experience of the stimulus. For example, since the staff always gave Clive a small plastic beaker of water with his medication, he would expect it, raise the beaker and say every time, "Is this champagne, or real pain?"

Amnesic people can also recall by using "priming": that is, if they hear one thing or phrase associated with another, hearing the first prompts a statement of the second. So, if I said, "St Mary's," Clive could say, "Paddington," though he had no idea what it meant.

When Clive made the first entries in his diary it was at my prompting. But on Sunday, July 7, 1985 he made his first spontaneous entry: "Today: 1st CONSCIOUSNESS... Conscious for the FIRST TIME."

This probably marks the first time Clive was able to articulate to himself the strange phenomenon of immediate and blanket forgetting that he had experienced since he was brought into hospital.

Clive made entries in the diary every two or three minutes. People have sometimes interpreted that to imply a new awakening at two- or three-minute intervals. In fact the lapse between each entry signified only the time it took for the process of recording. It involved deciding to write down the fact of his awakening, pulling a pen from his pocket and writing; then a read-through of previous entries, scoring these out because he was sure he had been unconscious when he wrote them.

When he came to the last entry he checked his watch and saw that it was incorrect, so he amended it, reinforcing the last and only true entry by underlining it. Finally Clive would replace the top on his pen, put it back in his pocket and look around to get his bearings in the room. That process might take the few minutes between entries. His span of "consciousness" is actually a great deal shorter.

Every diary entry gives an eyewitness account of a life with no memory: "5.10am Conscusch FINALLY AWAKE AT - AM [a hotchpotch of successive times all scribbled out later] exactly. Newspaper arrived at 8.40am Medicines arrived at 8.45am AND I AWOKE properly AT 8.47am. And completely at 8.49am And became aware of the problems of understanding me."

I was reading medical books, but the cases I read about bore little resemblance to Clive's. For one thing, he started to talk backwards. It had the qualities of compulsion, as if it were his language of choice. He spoke backwards more quickly than anyone could decipher what he was saying. He thoroughly enjoyed this, and gave the staff a run for their money, giggling when they couldn't make him out. He didn't seem to be able to recall my name, but recognised it when he saw it.

"harobeD!" he said. "O harobeD, I evol ouy!"

The fact that Clive could spell and speak back-to-front with such facility and wit showed there was some real intelligence alive in there. His brain might be dark, and yet he was a crack backwards-speaker.

I was soon to discover that more of Clive's brain was intact. There were not many places to go off the ward with Clive but the hospital chapel was one of them, a familiar environment to Clive, who had spent his whole life singing, playing the organ or conducting in similar rooms.

I picked up some music and held it open for Clive to see. I started to sing one of the lines. He picked up the tenor line and sang with me. A bar or so in, I suddenly realised what was happening. He could still read music. He was singing. His talk might be a jumble no one could understand, but his brain was still capable of music.

This opened a door for Clive. He could sit down at the chapel organ and play with both hands on the keyboard, changing stops, and with his feet on the pedals, as if this were easier than riding a bicycle. Singing was in many ways easier than talking. It transcended language.

And the momentum of the music carried Clive from bar to bar. He knew exactly where he was because in every phrase there is context implied: by rhythm, key, melody. When the music stopped, Clive fell through to the lost place. But for those moments he was playing he seemed normal again.

I had long worried about Clive's future care. He continued to live in the same room in the psychiatric wing of St Mary's, but it was not ideal. Then, in 1992, a new residential unit for people with acquired brain injury opened that was just right for Clive: a beautiful house in the countryside in the grounds of a large rehab centre.

With Clive settled, I could begin to plan my own extrication from the brain-injury world. I thought leaving England would perhaps be a way of leaving all the pain. I'd been 27 when Clive got ill. I was now turning 35. I initiated divorce. I took a plane to Washington DC and sold the London flat. I planned to stay away forever, make a new life. It didn't work out quite that way.

Clive never knew we were divorced because he was incapable of knowing anything. His family and his consultant agreed it would only upset him at the time, and he would remember none of it afterwards anyway. Legally he could not give informed consent, so his son acted for him.

Everyone understood that the divorce was partly one of expedience, since I would not be in the UK to look out for Clive; and partly an action to help me move on to a life beyond Clive. But I would remain joint next of kin with his son, because I wanted to continue to be involved in taking decisions about Clive, to continue to be his advocate. His family supported me in that.

I continued to visit him. Nine years into the amnesia, there was some difference in our reunions. For the first few years Clive had always found them intensely emotional, bringing on either grief, high-note joy or furious anger. Now, when I came back from America, it was my turn to feel intensely emotional. I was longing to see him.

When I put my head round his door, his face registered a rush of delight and surprise as if he were about to dash to me as usual and lift me up and swing me round, but then he checked himself. He stood where he was, diffident. He knew enough about himself to realise that although it might seem like months or years of absence to him, I might only have been to the bathroom.

He seemed to be learning, through a kind of interior rehabilitation. He was developing a growing sense that he had asked and heard these questions and answers of awakening before. Though his stump of memory never allowed progression from first moment to sustained time, he understood enough of his situation to help him relate to others without constantly shouting to be let out of his amnesia. As I observed these subtle changes since my absence, I could not suppress a flash of hope. What else might he accomplish?

For the longest time little changed. Clive and I were each in a limbo of our own. But one night in 1999 I discovered, during a phone call to a friend, that God is real and who He is. Suddenly I knew what was important. I was beginning to know how to live, and discovered the power of prayer

Meanwhile Clive, from being withdrawn and morose in his room, became garrulous and outgoing. There were certain themes he stuck to, and some of what he said was rather odd, but he had come a long way from the years of the endless same few questions.

Now he would string all his subjects together in a row, and the other person simply needed to nod or mumble agreement. On days when he was in particularly good spirits, he might run through all his topics at once. Then I knew he was happy. If he was unhappy he would revert to the desperate old questions - "What's it like to have one long night lasting ...how long?"

Now that it had been 14 years, nobody liked to tell him how long. "It's like being dead!" The staff had come to call these his "deads", and they would count them and enter them in their records as a measure of how he was doing.

Clive was, granted, still perhaps the worst case of amnesia in the world, but there was no doubt he was learning new things and the difference it made to his quality of life to be able to converse more easily was significant.

One day I rang Clive and asked him how he'd feel about renewing our marriage vows. "What a lovely idea," he said.

And so, on Easter Sunday 2002, Clive and I dressed up to the nines. Clive's son Anthony came with his wife and two children, and so did Clive's care assistant, Laura. We had not made our marriage vows in church first time round so this would be much more powerful.

Clive was able to participate completely, remembering the Lord's Prayer and saying all that he wanted to say. The best bit was when we knelt down and our joined hands were wrapped in a golden sash. It went beyond a physical joining. It felt like we were touching something of eternity. Afterwards the tea room served us large slices of Victoria sponge and Clive, although he had no memory of what had taken place, was delighted, laughing and quipping and eating everything put in front of him.

Back at Clive's home, they had made up a bed for me in his room, strewn with red rose petals and balloons, like a fairy tale. The decorations made me sad. It's still sad - that he's like he is and that, apart from the heart-to-heart love, we have nothing resembling a regular marriage.

Even spending the night together in the same room doesn't work, as he wakes up constantly, several times an hour, wondering who the shape in the next bed can be.

Clive still writes his diary. The entries have barely changed, but the handwriting is calmer now. And his disposition is a lot happier. He knows he is in his place and I am out in the world.

"When are you coming?" is his regular refrain. But if I hesitate at all he reassures me that he is all right and he understands I have to do what I have to do.

"Get here at dawn," he says anyway. "Get here at the speed of light."

And one day I do arrive at dawn. I drive through the near-empty roads, hoping to be there when he wakes. But when they open the front door, he is there, already awake, and I am the first person he has seen and he clasps me to him and sings a high G and waltzes me into the living-room.

"My eyes have just come on," he says. "I can see everything normally for the first time."

"And I'm here!" I say.

He hugs me again, holds me at arm's length and smiles.

Later, when he makes me coffee, he knows where the cups are and where the milk is kept. I take him for a drive, and as we draw near to the house on the way back, he must recognise the place, for he unclasps his seat belt and offers to get out and open the gate.

When I leave that night my car doesn't start and I have to come in and call the breakdown service. We make a drink in the kitchen. Seven minutes after the last mention of my car Clive says, "Well, at least it means you can stay a bit longer!" Perhaps he had been rehearsing the event in his mind through those minutes. When the garage has repaired the fault and the engine is running, I come back in to get my things. Clive is ready to say goodbye and not hello.

"Remember I love you," I say.

"I can never forget you for a moment," he says. "We're not two people but one. You're the raison d'être for my heartbeat, darling. I love you for e-ter-ni-ty."

When I reach home several hours later I call him. I want to tell him I've arrived safely but he's forgotten I was there.

"When are you coming?" he says. "Please come at the speed of light!"

"I just got home from you," I say.

"Oh really? Well, come at dawn then..."


Tuesday, April 16, 2013

Aunt Agony 160413

Originally posted by soccer123:

Hello people. I have something to share here, and will like to seek some opinions and advice on a relationship matter..it may be very complicated and i expect to draw some flak. but just want to be honest here and get some thoughts on this.. (Caution: Long post ahead).


This is my first post here, and i am a guy who is 27yo, with a lovely gf, W, who is currently studying and away from S'pore for 8 mths. I am now 6 mths into my first job upon graduation. The story began in this first job.



Beginning


I came into the new office and worked with this project with a colleague, S, who was already in the project. Things were very professional and I was very serious in my work. S, as i learnt when i came into the office, will be getting married in about a year's time and it was already known to the whole office back then.


I had totally no imagination or liking for S at all, because i am already attached and she is already going to marry her bf of 2 years, J. However, I must admit that S is attractive and she is very serious in whatever work she is doing. Our working level relationship were pretty much the norm for the first 5 months, except that around the 3rd-5th months, we did start to chat a little bit, sidetrack abit from work during work conversations in whatsapp or email. But there were still no signs of flirting at all. Pure chit chatting with a colleague - friend. Along the way, S was busy preparing her new home, her wedding, and work. I, on the other hand, was basically work, and occasionally skype sessions with my gf, W.



The catalyst


Now, during one day in the 5th month, after a meeting, when all had left the room except for S and I, S told me that she was going to tender her resignation soon. I was in a state of shock, which later turned into disappointment. We stayed behind in the meeting room. We talked, I remained cool, and I asked her the usual questions like why did she want to quit, going to where, when, and so on. More importantly, I asked her to reconsider it because I would like her to stay, and I couldnt bear to see her go as I felt we were just in the beginning of the making of a good working tag team. I felt upset at that time, but I didnt show. She didnt tell me any reasons for wanting to quit, and the place where she is going too. We basically ended off with no conclusion.


For the next few days, I would try to persuade her to stay, as I realised as the days go by that I cant bear to see her go. At first, I thought it was because of the high turnover rate in the office (around 5-6 ppl had left during my short time there), but I realised that I really enjoy working with her and the understanding we had in work.


S did tell me that she would see first, but she already had an offer in another office. Somehow, this topic faded away for around 2 weeks after this, because of the hectic workload we had. What happened during these 2 weeks besides work was instead a dinner out together, and a series of unexpected events:



Attraction


The dinner was due to my request. Sometimes when u know a person is leaving you start to be more appreciative. In my case, I tried to use such opportunities to try to talk S round. What started off pretty simple ended with a slow walk out to the main road and at that time, both of us felt something.. attraction.


The other event that happened was on april fools' day. Again, we worked late. The whole office only had the 2 of us left. We were looking on my computer and half discussing work, half chit chatting, when suddenly she asked: 'can i kiss u'? To be honest, I was used to her harmless tricks and antics, so i was wary. I didnt think that she was really going to kiss me. But i sat still. She came closer.. until her lips were 3cm from mine. True enough, she suddenly pulled back and said 'bluff u!' and returned to her seat.


I was not surprised really, and didnt asked anything immediately after, and continued doing my work. We finally got our work done at around 2am, and were walking out the office and switching off the lights. It was then that I casually asked: 'u really were joking about kissing me huh? Can joke about this kind of thing one huh?' S replied: 'i am serious'. I realised she must have felt i thought she was joking or not taking her seriously. In that 1 moment, I moved my face closer, saw her..S got suddenly nervous and eyes were flustering. I moved until my lips touched hers. for 3 seconds. then i pulled back, and we left the office and for home separately.


The next day was the same. We worked till late. Only that this time, we were abit shy and more friendly to each other than before. As we left the office together, reached downstairs (which was a shopping mall), i was prepared to go to the taxi stand with her and go home. But she asked: 'Can we walk around for a while?' I agreed, and we just walked for a bit. We came to this spiral stairs that we had never went up before and talked about the stairs. Then we decided to explore what was upstairs. We locked lips the second time up the spiral stairs. This time, it was longer, and she asked if she could hug me. And we hugged. The night when I was going home, in the taxi, I thought: 'this is going to be complicated and get serious'. I kept thinking about my gf, W, but S kept hovering at the back of my mind. Subsequently, things became more ai4 mei4 and beneath the work we shared, we began to share many other things, like breakfasts, dinners, jokes, and chats.



Shocked


Until one day, when I was in boss' office and discussing about work, boss suddenly told me: 'do u know S tendered her resignation yesterday?' I was in a state of shock. I tried very hard to maintain composure, and finished the discussion. After which, I pulled S to outside the office, and asked her about it. We decided to talk about it after work.


The talk after work that day was emotional. I kept emphasising how much I would like her to stay. Only that this time I suddenly wasn't sure why I was asking her to stay. Was it because I really need her in the project, or want to develop the budding working chemistry we have so perhaps in future we can become partners of our own business, or because I realised I really couldn't bear to see her go? Perhaps it is all. I teared. What she told me kind of surprised me but it was something that I had thought before. She said part of the reason was me. She could not focus on her work and her bf. She realised that even when she was with her bf, she kept thinking of me. She knew this would get her into trouble. She had to leave. Her other reason was work-related. After much talk, eventually, the conclusion that night was she would reconsider her resignation. Something which gave me hope but I knew subconsciously that she had made up her mind and i was merely delaying the formality. The main point from me for her decision to 'reconsider' was that I would prove to her that I would not be a negative distraction to her. Instead, I would become a positive distraction and try to motivate her to conc on her work and her bf. In a way, it was like saying I would be someone who will toe my line and try to make her life happier from a distance.


Eventually, she told me she really did not want to sink deeper and would stick by her decision. I still tried for a few days more but to no avail. I was disappointed and upset.



About S's bf, J


All this while, she told me alot about her bf of 2 years, J. J was someone who gets suspicious easily, and he would keep calling S and ask her where she is, what she is doing, when is she going back, why, how, etc. S said she found it annoying. S also said that when J proposed to her overseas last year, she really did not want to agree because she didnt feel prepared at all. But looking at J, who knelt down and looked so disappointed, she relented. When I heard about all these, I felt I had 2 sides of me: a devil side and an angel side. And I have done both. I told her that it was obvious that she isnt happy and her feelings for him are not strong enough. She also said that J likes her more than she likes him. I told her that supposedly if she finds that i am more suitable one day, will she give up the wedding plans and chase her happiness? She said she cannot afford to lose everything. It would be too much of a risk. And I am attached. I knew I should not bring this up at all. The other side of me, the angelic side, would tell her that she has to think carefully before committing, for this is a decision which will impact the rest of her life. I told her that if she indeed realise that someone else is more suitable one day, and this feeling gets so strong until she believes in it, she should follow her heart and do it. But i made it clear that it must be from her and she must be clear about it. It cannot come from that someone, or from me. And if she manages to stay committed and learn to appreciate the good of her bf and grow old with him, I would give her my blessings too. When I said that, I started to become unsure if I was saying that because I want her to be happy and not make the wrong decision, or because I want her.


but looking at her, i knew she is in a huge dilemma. she isnt happy at all. I received 2 missed calls from her at 2.30am one night but i was asleep. I called her the next morning, and she told me that she had actually wanted to tell me the previous night that she wanted to cancel the wedding. but she said she was relieved i did not pick it up. what could i say. i could only listen.



Gradual acceptance?


I tried to persuade S time and again to stay, and each time i tried, i realised she was very determined. I grew to accept it and thought about what it would be after she left. On the working front, the project will be left to me alone. I felt alittle daunted and empty inside. This project was the project which S fought so hard for, and it was still in the beginning stages. I felt upset that S is giving it up. Many a times, when i was taking a break from office and went downstairs for a short puff, i became emotional at the thought of it. I even toyed with the idea of quitting, because i knew things will never be the same again. I wondered if S and me will stop contacting. S did tell me that her leaving would be best for both of us, given that both of us have own partners, and if she leave, things will become temporal suffering. Feelings will fade, or so she said. I told her that what if feelings wont fade? And if it will fade, it will also fade if she stays. If it won't fade, it will not fade no matter where she goes. I could not control myself and said all these, knowing i have a gf who is at overseas.


I did not feel well one day and went on MC. S actually got so worried that she took urgent leave and came my house to look for me. We talk again about the same things, and got close..but did not do anything.



Did wrong.


S and myself didn't have a good recent week. She had difficulties in focusing on work and bf, she is preparing for handover, for a transitioning period, she is preparing for her wedding, she is handling her bf's questioning of where she is going, what she is doing when she was with me, and she is distracted by me. I had tried and tried to make her stay, i had tried to comfort her, make her happier, make her stay focused and giving her my wishes. But deep down, i knew i am not happy. I also had to grapple with the prospect of not having her around as a working partner in office. I was contemplating leaving, too.


S was supposed to go on a short trip over the fri/sat weekend with a few colleagues. On the friday, i asked if I can spend time together with her on sat night, at her home or somewhere else. I just wanted to spend time with her. S said that it wasn't appropriate for me to go to her home..and I knew I should not ask her that. In the end, S told her colleagues that she had smth on and would not be going to the trip and called me instead. She asked if we could spend time together on fri after work instead. she actually put her trip off. i wrapped up my work, and went downstairs where she was waiting for me. I asked her, so how should we spend the night? she told me she would bring me somewhere. she had booked a room. For the first time and night, we didnt talk much about her staying/leaving. i began to tell her that she has become more of a regular feature in my mind. we mostly talked about her needing to commit and stick to her wedding. she hugged me and kissed me. she was in a struggle. and i reciprocated. and we spent the night together. In a room.



matters of the heart


S told me she wanted for us to be friends because if we let our feelings rule further it would cause us both lots of trouble. She said that her bf is already suspecting something, and they have been quarreling over all kinds of things. They were supposed to go choose gowns in the bridal studio, but they had a quarrel and called the appt off. S called me, wanted to meet me, but in no time told me again that she would again meet her bf to go to the bridal studio again. It was, to me, like an action to prove that she wants to fulfil the wedding promise. I replied her that i hope their quarrel would subside when they meet, and let me know again if she wants to meet me after that, though it would not be very possible because her bf would definitely question her. 


A few things are clear: she is leaving, she wants to stay committed to her wedding, she likes me alot, she wants to be with me but she could not. 


Many things are unclear: will this be temporary, do we want this to be temporary, how will this pan out, is she ready to commit to this for the rest of her life, will she be happy. On my part, when i see my gf in 1.5 month's time, how will i feel? what do i exactly want? Even if i know what i want, what can i do? I would want to remain committed to my gf. She is really an awesome girl. But what if my feelings grow stronger by the day? This is not something within my control and i cannot be the one to cause S trouble and risk all she has.



This is what I would like to share with you here. Will appreciate many opinions and what will you do if you are the guy / girl. This matter is too delicate and either way, people will be hurt. Some of my friends believe in karma, some don't, and believe in happiness. What about you?


I accept all replies and flaks. 


Thank you for reading.






I believe this short span of interaction must have impacted you quite a fair bit; you gave specific details and had vivid description of your situation. However, it reeks of incongruence - of your emotions and mind. My sense is that your inner state is also a projection of her inner state, both reflecting similar condition of ambivalence, intended uncertainty and illicit passion. These dark energy bounce off one another - one thing leading to another. It is not as 'random' as you have suggested. It is subconsciously and tactically calculated, brewed by strong karmic connection.

Regardless of which angle you are viewing, technically, both of you have betrayed your respective partner. You are cheating on emotional and physical plane dualistically - reinforcing each aspect in a tight model (e.g. the more you are emotionally attached to her, the more you feel that need to be around her vice versa). This is the most arduous form of betrayal to reverse. I won't be dealing with the morality of this issue, but what probably holds true is that the decay in your own relationship will rapidly spread and this effect is gangrenous.

Each conscious attempt to proceed forward with her is an indication and permission for the rot to gnaw at your current relationship inwardly. Your gf might return soon enough, but by then, it might only be carcass left waiting to be discarded.

***

You want to stay committed to your gf, but you do not seem to want to let S go. Sounds like an ideal plan - but in reality, this is the true source of your misery. The misery of infidelity lies with the perpetual feeding of ambivalence to your situation. You cannot make a decision by taking the good of two separate decisions and call it a choice and hoping to discard the negative consequence of your option. How good would life be for me if I could have money and not work for it - so in the same way, how good would life be for you if you could have two girls and keep it that way?

Being dysfunctional would be the likely outcome. This will persist until you come in terms with the fact that you have to deal with each relationship separately.There is no way that you could prevent a hurt from happening at this juncture. Surely, someone in the picture would be devastated; the only difference is how contagious and intense this pain would manifest itself to the parties involved.

Although she claims that she wants to 'do the right thing', the poor foundation of her own relationship would not allow her reasonable chance to 'carry on life as per normal'. In fact, the catalysis has already transformed the landscape of her relationship. It is likely that the long hours of work she has invested and the robust passion she has for you is merely a facade for the long suppressed avoidant-coping stance used to deal with her dysfunctional relationship.

Hence the passion may not necessarily be love, but a form of twisted courage to get out of the relationship she is unhappy with. This is especially true for those that appears to be meek in a power-unbalanced relationship, waiting for the condition to revote.

You presented the condition. Hence the revolution will take place (or has it already begin?)

***

When you measure love as an output and neglect the process, this is where most people end up with a product totally not what they originally thought it would look like. The main driving force of love is but a collection of cosmic lessons waiting to be taught. The process of learning about love is what love will teach in one's lifetime. It's not about the efficient output that we fancy and pray that the soup would somehow taste good if we put all the components together (e.g. Get HDB, propose, wedding dinner, get married, have babies, etc). If she accepts the marriage proposal through placating and avoids raising issues concerning her own love future because she does not know how to communicate her own needs, then she will pay for the consequence (with interest) until the time when she learns to take responsibility of her choice and by working on those two aspects.

The point I am driving is that if she needs the condition of a divorce to 'graduate' from this lesson, then it will eventually happen.

You might be a 'course material' - not necessarily the model answer.

***

This circumstance presents good opportunity to review your relationship. What is happening 'outside' the relationship may have malicious factors, but you have to decide if your current relationship is something that you still want to embrace. If so, this choice actually comes with a commitment to ensure its longevity.

You cannot claim to keep it, but yet still proceed with S.

Similarly, if you have decided that you want to drop your current relationship, then it also comes with a commitment of not 'closing the door, but leaving the windows open'. That will only serve to prolong your suffering.

Being brutally honest with yourself and having deep sense of awareness will help you to decide if what you are doing is but an excuse to keep status quo. Don't get me wrong, surely you can keep status quo since it holds the best of both world. However, this is not sustainable and will collapse into disequilibrium.

Then, you will be paying for the consequence of your choice.

Cheers

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